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Day 3 Chapter 4 of the Proposition 8 Trial Re-enactment presented by MarriageTrial.com. Produced by John Ainsworth & John Ireland. Edited by Michael Legge. THE JUDGE Vaughn Walker, Chief Judge, US District Court portrayed by Ted Heyck THE PLAINTIFFS Paul Katami portrayed by Woody Schultz Jeffrey Zarrillo portrayed by Bryan Cuprill Kristin Perry portrayed by Kitty Swink Sandy Stier portrayed by Tess Harper THE PLAINTIFF ATTORNEYS David Boies portrayed by Jack Laufer Theodore Olson portrayed by Clyde FT Small Theodore Boutrous portrayed by Peter Cassone Christopher Dusseault portrayed by Jon Keel Matthew McGill portrayed by Mark Doerr Ethan Dettmer portrayed by Shawn Ryan THE PLAINTIFF-INTERVENOR ATTORNEYS Dennis Herrera, SF City Attorney portrayed by Matt Pittenger Therese Stewart, SF Deputy City Attorney portrayed by Sarah Gaboury Christine Van Aken, SF City Attorney Portayed by Kate McNeil Danny Chou, SF City Attorney portrayed by Peter James Smith SF City Attorney Ronald Flynn portrayed by Todd Waring THE DEFENDANTS Arnold Schwarzenegger, California Governor Does not appear at trial. Edmund G. Brown, California Attorney General Does not appear at trial. Linette Scott, Deputy Director of Health & Strategic Planning for the California Department of Public Health Does not appear at trial. Patrick OConnell, Clerk-Recorder County of Alameda Does not appear at trial. Dean Logan, Clerk-Recorder County of Los Angeles Does not appear at trial. THE DEFENDANT ATTORNEY Tamar ...
Day 3 Chapter 3 of the Proposition 8 Trial Re-enactment presented by MarriageTrial.com. Produced by John Ainsworth & John Ireland. Edited by Michael Legge. THE JUDGE Vaughn Walker, Chief Judge, US District Court portrayed by Ted Heyck THE PLAINTIFFS Paul Katami portrayed by Woody Schultz Jeffrey Zarrillo portrayed by Bryan Cuprill Kristin Perry portrayed by Kitty Swink Sandy Stier portrayed by Tess Harper THE PLAINTIFF ATTORNEYS David Boies portrayed by Jack Laufer Theodore Olson portrayed by Clyde FT Small Theodore Boutrous portrayed by Peter Cassone Christopher Dusseault portrayed by Jon Keel Matthew McGill portrayed by Mark Doerr Ethan Dettmer portrayed by Shawn Ryan THE PLAINTIFF-INTERVENOR ATTORNEYS Dennis Herrera, SF City Attorney portrayed by Matt Pittenger Therese Stewart, SF Deputy City Attorney portrayed by Sarah Gaboury Christine Van Aken, SF City Attorney Portayed by Kate McNeil Danny Chou, SF City Attorney portrayed by Peter James Smith SF City Attorney Ronald Flynn portrayed by Todd Waring THE DEFENDANTS Arnold Schwarzenegger, California Governor Does not appear at trial. Edmund G. Brown, California Attorney General Does not appear at trial. Linette Scott, Deputy Director of Health & Strategic Planning for the California Department of Public Health Does not appear at trial. Patrick OConnell, Clerk-Recorder County of Alameda Does not appear at trial. Dean Logan, Clerk-Recorder County of Los Angeles Does not appear at trial. THE DEFENDANT ATTORNEY Tamar ...
Day 1 Chapter 2 of the Proposition 8 Trial Re-enactment presented by MarriageTrial.com. Produced by John Ainsworth & John Ireland. Edited by Michael Legge. THE JUDGE Vaughn Walker, Chief Judge, US District Court portrayed by Ted Heyck THE PLAINTIFFS Paul Katami portrayed by Woody Schultz Jeffrey Zarrillo portrayed by Bryan Cuprill Kristin Perry portrayed by Kitty Swink Sandy Stier portrayed by Tess Harper THE PLAINTIFF ATTORNEYS David Boies portrayed by Jack Laufer Theodore Olson portrayed by Clyde FT Small Theodore Boutrous portrayed by Peter Cassone Christopher Dusseault portrayed by Jon Keel Matthew McGill portrayed by Mark Doerr Ethan Dettmer portrayed by Shawn Ryan THE PLAINTIFF-INTERVENOR ATTORNEYS Dennis Herrera, SF City Attorney portrayed by Matt Pittenger Therese Stewart, SF Deputy City Attorney portrayed by Sarah Gaboury Christine Van Aken, SF City Attorney Portayed by Kate McNeil Danny Chou, SF City Attorney portrayed by Peter James Smith SF City Attorney Ronald Flynn portrayed by Todd Waring THE DEFENDANTS Arnold Schwarzenegger, California Governor Does not appear at trial. Edmund G. Brown, California Attorney General Does not appear at trial. Linette Scott, Deputy Director of Health & Strategic Planning for the California Department of Public Health Does not appear at trial. Patrick OConnell, Clerk-Recorder County of Alameda Does not appear at trial. Dean Logan, Clerk-Recorder County of Los Angeles Does not appear at trial. THE DEFENDANT ATTORNEY Tamar ...
Day 1 Chapter 1 of the Proposition 8 Trial Re-enactment presented by MarriageTrial.com. Opening statements begin at min. 15:02. Produced by John Ainsworth & John Ireland. Edited by Michael Legge. THE JUDGE Vaughn Walker, Chief Judge, US District Court portrayed by Ted Heyck THE PLAINTIFFS Paul Katami portrayed by Woody Schultz Jeffrey Zarrillo portrayed by Bryan Cuprill Kristin Perry portrayed by Kitty Swink Sandy Stier portrayed by Tess Harper THE PLAINTIFF ATTORNEYS David Boies portrayed by Jack Laufer Theodore Olson portrayed by Clyde FT Small Theodore Boutrous portrayed by Peter Cassone Christopher Dusseault portrayed by Jon Keel Matthew McGill portrayed by Mark Doerr Ethan Dettmer portrayed by Shawn Ryan THE PLAINTIFF-INTERVENOR ATTORNEYS Dennis Herrera, SF City Attorney portrayed by Matt Pittenger Therese Stewart, SF Deputy City Attorney portrayed by Sarah Gaboury Christine Van Aken, SF City Attorney Portayed by Kate McNeil Danny Chou, SF City Attorney portrayed by Peter James Smith SF City Attorney Ronald Flynn portrayed by Todd Waring THE DEFENDANTS Arnold Schwarzenegger, California Governor Does not appear at trial. Edmund G. Brown, California Attorney General Does not appear at trial. Linette Scott, Deputy Director of Health & Strategic Planning for the California Department of Public Health Does not appear at trial. Patrick OConnell, Clerk-Recorder County of Alameda Does not appear at trial. Dean Logan, Clerk-Recorder County of Los Angeles Does not appear at ...
Remember how frustrating it was during the Presidential campaigning to hear people and their opinions frequently reduced to demographic numbers? This project is my response to the wide spread media coverage of faulty poll results that led to African Americans being widely blamed for backing a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court's decision allowing same-sex marriage. For months it appeared African Americans were overwhelmingly in agreement with right-wing conservatives that marriage is not a civil right for everyone until Loyola's Levy Center for the Study of Los Angeles did a far more extensive poll and found the number of African American supporters of Prop 8 was significantly lower 57%, not much higher than Latinos who voted for Prop 8 at about 53% and whites who helped pass the amendment in numbers of about 50%.
Remember how frustrating it was during the Presidential campaigning to hear people and their opinions frequently reduced to demographic numbers? This project is my response to the wide spread media coverage of faulty poll results that led to African Americans being widely blamed for backing a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court's decision allowing same-sex marriage. For months it appeared African Americans were overwhelmingly in agreement with right-wing conservatives that marriage is not a civil right for everyone until Loyola's Levy Center for the Study of Los Angeles did a far more extensive poll and found the number of African American supporters of Prop 8 was significantly lower 57%, not much higher than Latinos who voted for Prop 8 at about 53% and whites who helped pass the amendment in numbers of about 50%.
TwitPWR.com Latest ( prop 8) News results for ( prop 8) Upheld ( prop 8) upheld by Calif. court The other news this afternoon, "The California Supreme Court today upheld Proposition 8's ban on same-sex marriage but also ruled that gay couples who wed ... msnbc.com - 3867 related articles » Prop. 8 upheld, but existing same-sex unions to stand - San Jose Mercury News - 63 related articles » ( prop 8) Upheld -- New Yorkers React - About - Cities & Towns - 12 related articles » # Prop. 8: The California high court upholds a ban on gay marriages ... The California Supreme Court today upheld Proposition 8's ban on same-sex marriage but also ruled that gay couples who wed before the election will continue ... www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-prop8-decision27-2009may27,0,6677891.story - 75k - 18 hours ago - Cached - Similar pages - # Gay groups call federal marriage suit premature - Yahoo! News A day after the California Supreme Court upheld a voter-approved ban on gay ... ( prop 8) Upheld in Court, Gay Marriage Proponents Turn to Politics Time.com ... Same-sex marriage protestors stop traffic "I'm really happy that Prop. 8 was upheld, but I was just told by somebody that she's going to harass me until the day I die," Kulinich said. ... ( prop 8) Upheld | MetaFilter Proposition 8 Upheld by CA Supreme Court. In crushing blow to marriage equality, the California Supreme Court has affirmed the validity of Proposition 8 ... ( prop 8) likely to be upheld - First Read - msnbc.com ...
In front of supreme court building on Mac allister san francisco Please await SUpreme court decision on Same sex Marriage which was overturned with prop 8 Results: Prop 8 upheld. Marriage only between a man and a woman In California. 18 000 marriages performed while it was legal still valid.
Prop 8 was upheld by the Supreme Court today. This is a big setback: although the existing marriages will remain, the ban will continue to prevent any new marriages. But the fight's not over: we're bringing it back to the ballot, probably as soon as next year. The most effective way to prepare is by having conversations. You need to talk to everyone know know -- EVERYONE -- about why marriage equality is personally important to you. We know that we'll win this fight soon; working together, we can turn this difficult news into an eventual victory. Full transcript of video: Hi, I'm Matt from Stop8.org with breaking news about marriage equality. The California Supreme Court just ruled on Prop 8, the marriage ban, and the results are mixed. On one hand, the 36000 people who got married last year can stay married. But the court also ruled that nobody else can get married -- so if youre like me and you missed your chance, you're out of luck. For now. This is a setback -- but its actually not as bad as it sounds, because of something great that weve learned from our recent victories in other states: the more people talk about marriage equality, the faster public support grows. That means that even when the news is bad, it's still a great opportunity to start conversations; and each conversation brings us closer to winning the fight. So -- whats next? Were bringing it back to the ballot, probably in about a year. Organizations like Courage Campaign and Equality California are ...
Remember how frustrating it was during the Presidential campaigning to hear people and their opinions frequently reduced to demographic numbers? This project is my response to the wide spread media coverage of faulty poll results that led to African Americans being widely blamed for backing a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court's decision allowing same-sex marriage. For months it appeared African Americans were overwhelmingly in agreement with right-wing conservatives that marriage is not a civil right for everyone until Loyola's Levy Center for the Study of Los Angeles did a far more extensive poll and found the number of African American supporters of Prop 8 was significantly lower 57%, not much higher than Latinos who voted for Prop 8 at about 53% and whites who helped pass the amendment in numbers of about 50%.
Black Voices on Prop 8 is a documentary series that presents the many varied opinions of African Americans on same-sex marriage and shows just how wrong polls can be. Remember how frustrating it was during the Presidential campaigning to hear people and their opinions frequently reduced to demographic numbers? This project is my response to the wide spread media coverage of faulty poll results that led to African Americans being widely blamed for backing a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court's decision allowing same-sex marriage. For months it appeared African Americans were overwhelmingly in agreement with right-wing conservatives that marriage is not a civil right for everyone until Loyola's Levy Center for the Study of Los Angeles did a far more extensive poll and found the number of African American supporters of Prop 8 was significantly lower 57%, not much higher than Latinos who voted for Prop 8 at about 53% and whites who helped pass the amendment in numbers of about 50%.
Californians answer the question, "What would you say to the Supreme Court?" when asked by Valerie Paget and Tracie Jones as they march from Los Angeles to San Francisco to protest the results of Proposition 8 at the California Supreme Court.
Shortly after the election results on prop 8, Rev. Deborah held a gathering for people to come together and learn about the history of marriage equality in California.
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November 12, 2008 Season 6 Episode 48 Ellen recommends everyone to listen what Keith Olberman has to say about Prop 8 Ban Gay Marriage in California
Keith Olbermann makes a great comment on the backwardsness of the rescinding of already granted rights of gays to marry. The proposition 8 wording is just like the "Separate but Equal" legislation of the 60's. I am not gay, and being in NY I am about as far away from California as you can get in this country, so there is no personal agenda here. ModCollectibles.com
Next Anti-Prop 8 Protest Set for Chicago Following Saturday night's successful protest against California Proposition 8 leader James Dobson, when some 500+ came out despite miserable weather, Chicago LGBT activists have set a follow-up protest for 12:30 PM, Saturday, November 15th at the Federal Plaza, corner of Adams and Dearborn Streets, Chicago. Chicago's protest is part of a nationwide series of simultaneous protests at precisely the same hour on that day -- in over 80 cities and in all 50 states -- coordinated through the website www.jointheimpact.com Although last Tuesday's vote in California prompted officials in that state to cease issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples, it's an open question whether the Supreme Court in that state will confirm the ballot referendum or throw it out. Officially, their decision will probably hinge on a legal technicality -- whether or not the referendum language broke a vaguely worded provision of the state constitution that says that referenda cannot be overly-broad in the matters they cover. However, the real reason for the court's decision will probably have much more to do with the amount of protest heat that LGBT people and our allies can generate outside of the courtrooms. While courts are always loath to admit that public protest influences their decisions, some of the most important progressive decisions have in fact been the direct results of such public protest. A large women's movement in the streets of America ...
Ellen Degeneres and her wife of 3 months, Portia de Rossi stop to answer a few questions regarding the very controversial Proposition 8. Proposition 8 is a law to ban all Gay marriages in the State of California. ©Finalpixx.com sales@finalpixx.com **Exclusive**
Last week Guy Ritchie and Madonna announced they’re getting divorced. The UK Sun is reporting that the famous couple is making a settlement where Ritchie is getting at least 34 mil in cash, in addition to properties including the couple’s country estate and London pub. But now the question is, is A Rod in the picture? Both A-Rod and Madonna are keeping quiet about whether or not they’re romantically linked, but MSNBC reports that he was in the audience for her October 12th show in New York. comedian and talk show host ellen degeneres has donated 100-thousand dollars to the “no” on prop eight campaign. Degeneres used this money to buy television airtime where she will ask Californians to vote no on the intiative that will ban gay marriage. According to Access Hollywood, this generous donation to the “no” on prop eight occurred a day after gay rights bloggers called her out for not immediately giving money to the campaign. That’s all for now, but stay tuned for your entertainment fix right here on BSW Channel.com Distributed by Tubemogul.
There was a protest at the State Capital on 11/9/2008 after the disappointing results of the Nov. 4 election passing Prop 8 which makes it illegal for same sex couples to get married. Protests are going on all over the state, this is some random footage and pictures from the Sacramento one on 11/9. Just so you know the lady who is speaking at one point is the granddaughter of Caesar Chavez. There wasn't an actual head count, but it was estimated that there were somewhere around 2500 - 4000 people. It was also said this was the largest protest at the capital that they have seen in years.
just more ranting :D why do i only make video's when i'm HELLA scrubbin?
A Good Man. This video from MSNBC - see: www.msnbc.msn.com
The Christian Road Warrior rants again about some results of the latest election. Yes on 8, now that was really great!
November 7, 2008 Season 6 Episode 45 Ellen Degeneres tells us how she feels about the outcome of the Proposition 8 Results in California.
San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom's reaction to the passing of the same sex marriage ban.
Hot Topics From November 7 For those wondering about the case they're talking about where a preacher was jailed, the case was in SWEDEN, and it had nothing to do with gay marriage, it was about hate speech, which Sweden has laws against. We do not have such laws here in the US
Hon. John Duran speaks out at a West Hollyood rally against the election results of proposition 8.
Prop 8 Gay Marriage Rally Protest Local News 11/6/08
Rally for Equality in Sacramento- after prop 8 passed
Part 2 of Mayor Gavin Newsom, speaking to the crowd and trying to rally the troops as the disappointing results started to filter in. At the Westin St. Francis, November 4, 2008. Sorry for the shaky camera work...was fully zoomed in and my arms started getting a little tired. ;-)
Mayor Gavin Newsom, speaking to the crowd and trying to rally the troops as the disappointing results started to filter in. At the Westin St. Francis, November 4, 2008. Sorry for the shaky camera work...was fully zoomed in and my arms started getting a little tired. ;-)
Opponents and advocates of same-sex marriage squared off in Sacramento late Wednesday in the wake of the passage of Proposition 8, which bans such marriage in California.
Bakersfield TV Channel 17 takes a look at election day as both sides continue to campaign and results start to come in.
West Hollywood rally against Prop 8 results, Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2008.
Youtube has removed audio for this vid due to copyright violation. Thank you Youtube. Sorry Madonna. And to the Mormon Church--you'll see.
Election night, we waited for results on the gay marriage ban in CA.
San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom Speaks on Equality and Prop 8 just as we were getting early word on results at the Westin St. Francis Hotel in Union Square. The night was long and didn't quite end the way we wanted. But Gavin's inspiring speech drew parallels to Martin Luther King Jr.
I feel like this past week has been a week for me to just speak out and be heard. Whoever hears or reads my message and has some sort of opinion about the topic means that I did my job right. One voice matters like Obama said. That woman was fired upand it took her and a few others to make Obama fired upListen Americayou wont silence my LGBTQQI communitywere fired upwere ready. WHY did I VOTE FOR OBAMA? It was a clear choice for me and I know he was the right candidate for this position. However, he is against gay marriage, but has stated: "...he would support civil unions between gay and lesbian couples, as well as letting individual states determine if marriage between gay and lesbian couples should be legalized." Having said that, I still respect the man for his belief, but has said he would late states determine that! I respect Obama for that and that is why I voted for him! DAMN yal...do some research and speak with some intelligence before you leave a comment! STOP FUCKING MAKING YOUR VOICE HEARD IF YOU DONT LIVE IN THE FUCKING STATE UTAH! YOU DONT HAVE TO LIVE HERE, YOU ARE NOT GONNA GET AFFECTED BY SHIT WITH THIS, SO STAY THE FUCK OUT YOU STUPID MORONS!!!!! YES MORONS!!! When folks say, stop bitchingstop talkingCalifornia has spokenit only feeds me more and gives me more reasons to tell people like that to shut the FUCK UP! If its over you say, why the fuck do you keep on leaving stupid comments IF IT IS OVER? If you care enough to care to leave messages like that ...
My thoughts after the results are in. Obama, Proposition 8 in California, Amendment 2 in Florida. A bittersweet victory. The election of Obama is great, but the passing of Prop 8 and Amendment 2 leaves a bitter taste. My results information comes from vote.sos.ca.gov enight.dos.state.fl.us
this was filmed before results were posted.
If Prop. 8 passes, some say that marriage licenses will stop being issued to same-sex couples as soon as the election results are certified. Some experts say couples who have already married will remain married.
A combination of ads of the Vote No on Prop 8 campaign.
Don't Hate, NO on 8! Hillcrest Rally, San Diego CA 11/01/08
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Shocking! I have been wondering who this undecided voters were! WIth the 2008 Presidential Election just barely more than a week away, I was shocked to discover that one of my circle of friends is an undecided voter! Last week at dinner, I was giving him a hard time and said "I suppose you're voting yes on Proposition 8." The topic came up because the 3 of us we seated next to a table of 15 lesbians. (Proposition 8 overturns gay marriage in California.) He told me that he was voting no on Prop 8 because he would not deny though rights to his sister. I told him that I was relieved, but that I thought that based on a statement he made about a month ago about voting for McCain. He corrected me and told me that he did not say that he "was" voting for McCain, but rather that he was "leaning" toward McCain. He put himself at about 60% likely to vote for McCain at that time, but as Sarah Palin has showed herself repeatedly to be so unprepared to be Vice President, and the fact that John McCain has a history of health problems and is over 70 years old, he was about 50/50 on McCain and Obama. Well, finally a bit over a week ago, a nudge came in the form of General Colin Powell. My friend was in the Navy during the Clinton administration and was a registered Republican at the time. He felt that Clinton allowed the American military to be "pushed around" in many parts of the country. Let's just say, the opinion of General Colin Powell went a long way with him. Powell is a long time Republican and has known John McCain for decades. If that isn't enough to support McCain, then why should he? I hope that my friend is a reasonably typical example of the "swing vote." If so, I have great HOPE for this election. Assuming we get a fair election, people vote the way they are telling the pollsters that they are, and all the votes get counted... we could be looking at President Barack Obama! What an exciting political era we are about to enter into if that happens. OK, I have to stop. I don't want to think about it too much, as if it does not happen it will already be a great disappointment. So, I am mentally preparing myself, taking a deep breath, and awaiting the results... Thanks for reading. Read all you want, I'll write more. -Chris Corsello October 2008
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A lot of people feel the need to do so, including some of my audience. My thoughts... "Recently, I posted a video on youtube about my father's sign for prop eight. This has sparked a bit of debate on the subject, which I think is awesome. There is one thing, however, that disturbs me. One commenter. jwilson35183 said, and I quote: "Well, you can bitch about sign on your front lawn or you can actually empower your yourself and others by tearing it out or lighting it up. It's hard to take a whiner seriously, but easy to listen-up to those who have the power to make change occur. It's up to truly responsible people to initiate change. People like you don't deserve to be heard because you do not have the fortitude to fight for what you supposedly believe in." I have several things to say to this: ONE. Just because I disagree with my father, doesn't mean I have the right to take away his freedom of speech. He has the right to his opinion, just as we all do in this great nation. TWO. What brings greater results, speaking out, or striking out? As of now, gay rights is a matter of democracy, not war. I seek to convince voters, not to overthrow our government. I'm a libertarian, not an anarchist. If you've got a problem with the system, that's a different story. But I'd like to ask you: what worked better for african american rights: Martin Luther King's doctrine, or Malcom X's? I'm looking for a world of Coexistence and peace, here, not one of meaningless hatred and conflict. THREE. Taking down these signs is not changing anyone's mind. It's just proving a point to them. If you really want to promote equality and coexistence in this nation, don't tear down their signs. Don't limit their right to their own point of view. Prove them wrong. Prove that we CAN coexist, and that, despite all their fears, homosexuals and those who stand by them are not a threat to them or to the greater society. This is an emotional issue. But we have to use reason and logic, as well. Before you get angry, think about the other side's point of view. Try to understand it. And if you disagree with them still, prove it wrong with debate and discussion. Don't go tearing signs down. Be the protagonist, not the antagonist." (Mr. King is quoted from "Where Do We Go from Here : Chaos or Community?" [1967], p. 62 )
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